success rates under 30...here is what i found!

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  1. Anyone else under 30 years old with only male factor fertility problems?

    So I admit to being a little obsessed with figuring out what my success rate will be for this IVF cycle (#1, male factor so we are doing ICSI). I have been frustrated with the lack of information on IVF success for women under 30 as well as women who don’t have any reproductive problems (most IVF centers only post an under 35 success rate and do not distinguish male factor only from female problems). Since the average 34-35 year old woman likely has very different success rate than the average 27 year old woman, I find these stats to be pretty irrelevant.

    So basically, what I found is that women our age (I am 27, with no reproductive problems) are much more suited to the egg donor category, that are posted on many IVF center websites (the average age for the egg donor is 28 years old and they do not have any reproductive problems).

    Additionally, women under 30 are very likely to produce high quality embryos (even with male factor, since ICSI basically circumvents the male problems) and are very likely to be able to transfer a blastocyst (day 5 transfer) rather than an 8 cell embryo (day 3 transfer).

    Here are the stats I found on blastocyst transfers:

    Infertile couples average about a 50% success rate with a 2 blast. transfer
    Egg donor group averages about an 80% success rate with a 2 blast transfer

    This gave me a lot of hope! Wanted to pass it along…let me know if you want to read the full info.

    Lots of luck!

    Morgan

  2. When are you starting the invitro process?

    You sound exactly like me. I am 27 years too and I am having to go through invitro because I got my tubes tied 4 years ago.

  3. Hi Jen! I am currently on BCP and will start stims around April 15th! How about you?

    -Morgan

  4. I am so sorry to barge, and this is probably not what you want to hear, but ICSI doesn't necessarily circumvent male factor problems. It can help a lot, of course, but it is not a sure thing. If the sperm has issues such as a high level of DNA fragmentation (which the standard semen analysis cannot detect), ICSI can't do much. I'm sorry - I feel as though I'm raining on the parade - but I also thought ICSI was a sure thing in our case, and it wasn't.

  5. I am so sorry to barge, and this is probably not what you want to hear, but ICSI doesn't necessarily circumvent male factor problems. It can help a lot, of course, but it is not a sure thing. If the sperm has issues such as a high level of DNA fragmentation (which the standard semen analysis cannot detect), ICSI can't do much. I'm sorry - I feel as though I'm raining on the parade - but I also thought ICSI was a sure thing in our case, and it wasn't.

    What test do they do for sperm fragmentation? Do doctors order this before IVF? Ours didn't mention it.

  6. What test do they do for sperm fragmentation? Do doctors order this before IVF? Ours didn't mention it.

    It\'s called a DNA integrity assay (check these links for further info: scsadiagnostics.com and malereproduction.com. From what I understand, it gives a good indication of the structural shape sperm is in (sort of the 'tip of the iceberg' idea, since science still doesn't know a whole lot about sperm problems).

    Interestingly, I've learned that sperm with awful motility and morphology can still have good DNA; the reverse can also be true. Which is why it's best not to trust the results of a basic semen analysis. My DH's sperm look ok with a regular analysis. Post-wash, his motility and morphology drop to almost 0%, and the sperm have a tough time with fertilization, etc.

    But his fragmentation rate is only 13.86, which is excellent - the most important thing about sperm is the DNA, after all - and we were so relieved, and we know it's worth it to try another cycle.

    DH had his DNA test done in Canada (cost us $200, so not bad). Not all doctors will order it: some (as we've discovered through experience) just want to run cycle after cycle and hope that something finally works. We were not satisfied with this point of view, and so we looked for an RE who would order any male factor test we wanted.

    Also, DH had other tests done - here is the complete list: semen culture, DNA integrity assay, y-microdeletion, scrotal ultrasound, and a karyotype/chromosome analysis. I really believe these tests are worth asking for if male factor is the main reason for doing IVF.

    Again, sorry, I don't want to scare any of you, but I was also led to believe that ICSI would circumvent our male factor problem. I think it's best to go into IVF knowing exactly what is going on.

    Feel free to pm me for any further info.

  7. Hey girls, Just wanted to give you my story. Started IVF at 27, DH was 28. My husband has poor motility, morphology and sperm count. No problems on my end. My doc said that I had a 90% chance of success, bc we t/f two perfect blasts on day 5. It was a chemical, then we did an FET and t/f'd four...negative. Just finished second fresh (Im 28, DH 29), t/f'ed 3 perfect 1AA blasts and am finally preggo with one baby. I think that your age is definitely on your side and IVF definitely increases your chances, but it is not a sure thing.

  8. Being under 30 is great, but we only had MF, and we were both 23. Our embies all turned out very mediocre, and we had to do a day 3 transfer. It took luckily, but the doctor wasn't quite as confident with the grading. We did ICSI, but our RE blamed the quality issue on my DH's \"poor sperm\".

  9. Nadia- what type of sperm problems did your DH have?

  10. Child mentioned

    I thought this would be the case for us. No problems on my my end, I have a son from a previous relationship. DH has pretty much low everything, but was told it would be an easy fix with icsi. So hear I am, 3 years later. I have had one late loss from our first try, and 2 chemicals from frozen transfers. Good news is, Im starting all over at a new place next month, and we for sure will be doing more testing on my dh. So it's not as always as easy as it seems, even when starting out at 23 years old like we did.

  11. fati---DH had very few sperm (could count it on two hands) due to undescended testicles that weren't repaired until late childhoods, so the RE was shocked we didn't need to do TESE on the day of retrieval. After a spin, he had enough to fertilize my eggs. By God's good grace, it worked!

  12. or you could be like me... I was 23 when I did my IVF and all my tests came out perfect nothing wrong..we were dealing strictly with MF..or so we thought.

    I had 20 plus mature follicles..they only got 10 eggs..6 were mature..Hubby's sperm looked great..4 eggs fertilized with ICSI and then it all went to hell in a hand basket...my embies looked awful at day 3 ..it was a bfn. hubby did his part of the IVF with flying colors...it was me that turned into a bust.

    you never know whats going to happen when you go into IVF. Its best not to have to high of expectation's because the let down is brutal.

    not saying you should just assume you wont get preg...IMO its best to have a guarded heart... I didnt and it was very hard to take when our cycle turned out so awful...i was told my chances were above 50% originally.

  13. Ladies- thanks for all your input and I'm very sorry for your negative cycles. Please note that the post is months old, though- I am now pregnant with identical twins. I wish you all the best of luck.

  14. Congrats on your twins..I gave birth to my son in Feb.

    Im glad your stats worked for you.. its not always that way and people need to realize that.

    Even though this thread is a months old it is still here where everyone can view it. Its best to get all sides out on the table even if a topic is a months old.

  15. Christin- agreed- success rates aren't a guarantee. I'm sorry you fell on the other side of the stats. This post was just meant to provide some information on women under 30 (since most clinics only post stats for under 35).

    Certainly wasn't a guarantee of success for everyone under 30.

    Congrats on your son and your success...good luck!

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