New laws on renewing your driver's license

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  1. If you've not had the pleasure of doing this lately you are in for an eye opening experience. All states are required to change their laws and maybe your state hasn't gotten around to it yet but oh my.....

    You have to provide documentation of every name change since your birth certificate was issued. So if you've married once then all you need is your CERTIFIED copy of your birth certificate and the CERTIFIED copy of your marriage license. If you've ever divorced and remarried you have to bring all of those certified copies with you. Even if you are not changing anything on your current license you have to bring all that stuff.

    Your social security card must match EXACTLY to your DL or it will not be renewed. You must bring the real SS card, not a copy.

    Check right now when your DL is up for renewal and start getting your ducks all in a row. It takes time to get SS cards re-issued, court houses to mail certified copies, etc.

    It took me 2 trips to the DMV since the postcard I rec'd from them was worded in a such a way that I didn't think I had to bring all that stuff since I was just renewing with no changes. WRONG.

  2. My mom is doing the same thing. I read her little postcard she received to renew and she didnt believe me that they wanted all that since she was just renewing. She still hasnt gotten everything and I have tried to tell her they wont renew it (I called and asked for her). They want everything, birth certificate, marriage license, my dad's death certificate, SS card. I mean really this is crazy. It's easier to get a passport than a drivers license nearly.

  3. 64, not everyone (although admittedly I was one ) changes their name when they get married, so some might just need a certified birth certificate. Many states have their vital statistics services available online, so check the web for the state of your birth if you don't have a certified copy of your birth certificate, and need one.

  4. I'm sure this was on the news but until you are the one needing to renew you don't realize the hoops you have to jump through now just to update an expiring license with NO changes to it.

    Guilty of fraud until you can prove your innocence.

  5. OH crud. I am so screwed. My parents named me one name--and put it on the BC. They ended up calling me something else--and put it on the SS card. I have never known what my legal name is. I am sooo screwed. I don't even know where to begin. Half my docs are in one name, half in another.

  6. Our state stopped sending postcard reminders to save money. I ended up looking at my license 1 day before traveling and noticed it had expired. My passport had expired too. Then there was a snowstorm. I went in a blizzard to get it renewed so I could travel the next day. Turns out I could have just renewed it online, but I needed paperwork for the plane ride. I'm good for a few more years.

  7. Yes my friend you are screwed. I suggest getting the ss card in the name on your birth certificate. That is the official name unless your parents went through the courts and legally changed your name. Did they do that? Do you have a judge's order changing your legal name? Just putting a name on the ss application back in the day doesn't legally change your name.

    Do you have time? When is the license expiring? If it were me, I would go with the name on the birth certificate and get everything in that name squared away first and then go through the courts later and get the name officially changed. I'm afraid with half & half you are going to get into a heap of trouble.

  8. I'm sure this was on the news but until you are the one needing to renew you don't realize the hoops you have to jump through now just to update an expiring license with NO changes to it. Guilty of fraud until you can prove your innocence.Isn't this a little sexist? Married/single/divorced men don't have to do anything but have a copy of their birth certificate.
    Feck. This is going to be a mess for me....

  9. It sounds like Florida is just now getting around to complying with the Real ID law Congress passed in 2005 to try to cut down on fraud and the chance someone will be able to get an ID under a false name. Some states are fighting the requirement so it is likely state by state as far as the requirements go.

  10. Yep. I had to do it when we moved to Texas last year.

  11. Glad I never legally changed my name (not even after I married). Now, where the heck are my ss card, and birth certificate

  12. How new is this? My mom just renewed her license in NY two or three months ago -- she sent a check and they sent a new license.

    It's concerning that it was so easy because she had a stroke in September and can barely walk and her left arm doesn't work well, not to mention that she doesn't hear well, either, and refuses to get it checked. She wanted the license so she could have ID; thankfully, she stopped driving a few years ago because she wasn't comfortable doing it anymore.

    I've had four name changes - birth name, new name after my mom remarried and new dh adopted us, married name, back to maiden name. My SS card still has my married name on it. There's an office in the building as dd's dr, so I'll take care of fit at the same time as her next appt.

    ...Lisa

  13. It is sexist but in the government's defense.....what else are they supposed to do? Men don't change their names like some women do when they get married & divorced so I can see their point. Now I guess we just need to stop changing our names to make this system easier and more fair for everyone.

    A friend of mine has been married 4 times and divorced 3 times - she's in a world of hurt. She is sooooo not a paperwork person and I'm sure she doesn't have all of these documents.

    My mom is screwed too because she was adopted by her stepfather as a young child and used that new name until she married my dad. Her bc has one name that is never seen again on any other document and she doesn't have the adoption paperwork so I don't know what she is going to do. Her papertrail of names has some missing links.

  14. I am sorry, but FL should be concentrating on getting the impaired elderly OFF the roads!!! Seriously, I am in close calls almost every day due to them. Sorry to be so blunt, but they need to establish an age that you must retake the drivers exam. My very VERY good friend lost her 17 yr old sister to an 87 year old woman who turned right into her as she was walking across the street..on a walk signal. My mothers boyfriend lost his brother last year when a 88 year old man turned right into him while he was on his motorcycle.

    When I say I have close calls just about every day, I am so not kidding. Just today I was in a parking garage and a very elderly woman drove straight into my lane and directly into her parking spot.....never even looked before coming into oncoming traffic. I saw her coming and stopped and saw up close how she never even looked!!! Or I could tell you about the older lady who was coming down the wrong side of the road the other day. Or the lady who backed up out of her parking spot without even looking and almost ran over me and DD.....arghhhhhhh

    ASED

  15. I thought I was going to fail the vision test. In the little viewer there are 3 columns. The first 2 columns I saw letters and numbers & read them off to her. She asked me about what the 3rd column had and I started laughing. "You're joking, right? There's nothing in the 3rd column." Come to find out because I have one contact lens for distance and one contact lens for close up that I can't see the contents of the 3rd column. What a relief. I thought I was going to fail.

  16. My mom is screwed too because she was adopted by her stepfather as a young child and used that new name until she married my dad. Her bc has one name that is never seen again on any other document and she doesn't have the adoption paperwork so I don't know what she is going to do. Her papertrail of names has some missing links.

    Can she go the probate court in the county she was adopted to get a copy of the adoption decree?

  17. I got a new one about a year ago and didn't have to show anything except my passport. I lost mine but it was about to expire so they just renewed it.

    I do need to go to the ss office at some point and correct my birthday. For some reason ss has it as 11/25 instead of 11/28. The only time it has been an issue is when we efile our taxes.

    Sara

  18. You have to provide documentation of every name change since your birth certificate was issued.

    I am assuming but will ask to be sure, this is just for legal name chnages right? not my names known as? My dad married my mom when I was 2 and they just called me by his last name, but never legally changed it, so all my school records were under Dad's last name, but any legal document (i.e. passport, DL, SS card) are in my legal last name, which is what I changed all my school records to when in college so my degree would match the name I'd apply for jobs with.

    So since Dad's last name was never official, I should just need my birth cert, right?

  19. Does the name on your bc match the name on your marriage license or do you still use your maiden bc name?

  20. So I did some checking.

    Your name has to match the name on whatever you're using for ID. So, if you're married and changed your name and using your birth cert as ID, then yes, you need to show your marriage license (or whatever). You have to show the connection between the ID and your current name. Sort of six degrees of separation with yourself.

    If you got married and divorced and married again, but never went back to your maiden name in between, you need to show how you went from bc name to current name.

    I went back to my maiden name after my divorce, so my current name matches my birth cert and that's fine -- I don't need to worry about the adoption or my marriage.

    You can probably use a current passport as ID without an issue.

    ...Lisa

  21. 64 - still use my maiden bc name.

    So far here, you've never had to show any id when renewing as long as your dl isn't expired yet.

  22. I renewed mine here in CA last year and didn't have to show anything. I did have to go in to have a new photo done, rather than being able to renew by mail as usual. The photo sucked because I was pg and had the twins exactly a week later. When the guy asked if all the information on my previous DL was still correct, I said all but the weight.

    Dh, unfortunately, had to fill out a bunch of paperwork and so did his doctor. He's got to take his test(s) next month to see if he gets to keep driving. If he doesn't, it's going to be a huge inconvenience. We'll manage, of course, but will have to rely on other people to help out.

  23. "Isn't this a little sexist? Married/single/divorced men don't have to do anything but have a copy of their birth certificate."

    No. The rules are the same for everyone. Men have to produce the same multiple documents as women do if they've changed their names due to marriage, divorce, or whatever else.

    The fact that fewer men change their names upon marrying than women do is a matter of personal decisions on the parts of each of those men and women.

    Yes, those decisions are based in large part on old, sexist, societal mores that dictated that all women took their husbands' surnames, but they have weakened greatly with time. I know many men who hyphenated their last name with those of their wives' upon marrying, a few who took their wives' surnames instead, and even a few couples who selected entirely new last names that they felt better fit them as a couple when they got married.

  24. I just checked with the NJ & NY DMVs.

    Unless some recent requirement is not yet listed on their websites or on their phone messages, they still do not require social security cards.

    In NJ a SocSec card is just one of many options of forms of ID you may use to meet their 6-point ID requirements, and only counts as 1 point.

    In NY you can even renew online if you haven't moved or changed your name (or have any of a few other issues) since your last renewal. And even for in-person renewal, you needn't have a SocSec card. (However, "To renew a non-driver photo ID card, you must also show your Social Security Card or proof that you are not eligible for a Social Security Card.")

    But I'll definitely confirm this with enough time to renew mine, as I would have to have a SocSec card, which I've never physically had, issued. So thanks for the heads up.

  25. Maine doesn't seem to have the same difficulties - yet. Here is their renewal online page:

    maine.gov/online/bmv/dlr/

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