How many to transfer?

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  1. Violet- I want to start by saying that this is our OWN personal decision--I do not "look down" on others for freezing AT ALL... We believe that when a sperm and egg meet it is a baby. Therefore, during freezing or thawing a baby may be lost... Also, if (for whatever reason) we would freeze them and then not be able to use them, we would feel guilty. I know that we could donate, etc., but we do not feel comfortable with those other options. We feel completely fine with freezing sperm or eggs separately, but I do not think that my clinic does the egg freezing as of yet.

    I totally understand differing feelings on these topics becuase it is such a personal and highly sensitive thing...but I often have trouble understanding how people think that embryos are actual "babies"..no offense intended whatsoever...but to me if embryos were actual "babies" everyone who did IVF would actually have children. Anyway...I do think they are all precious chances and worthy of careful respect...but since most embryos are not viable regardless of if they are created in an IVF cycle, or through natural conception attempts...I personally can't think of them all as actual "babies" and find that idea rather difficult to reconcile with my experiences.

    That said...I totally agree with others here...10 ish eggs is not a "mini" cycle at all. That is a normal IVF stim cycle. If you have concerns about freezing embryos...for whatever reason is important to you (any reason that is important to you is valid) then you really should choose an actual mini-stim cycle or look into egg freezing imho..over trying to make a cycle you have potential issues with work with your needs... the doses of meds and the cost of doing a regular cycle and limiting the number you fertilize doesn't make much sense in my view. If your clinic doesn't offer what you need, I think seeking out a different clinic that fits with your needs and your ethical concerns makes much more sense.

    One thing I would make sure you are prepared for ....if the cycle fails...if the cycle fails are you prepared to undergo multiple cycles financially and emotionally, or will you only do one cycle etc......do you have back up plans... if not..I would make sure you consider all the possiblities when deciding what type of cycle you will do, and what you are not willing to do...etc..

    good luck..

  2. We have actually signed for the shared risk with our RE. It gives us 3 fresh cycles for a certain amount. I have an appointment with our RE in 2 weeks and I am going to talk to him about egg freezing--also about a more mini cycle. I will let you know what we decide.

    Thanks for the info!

  3. Remember - you got something like 7 eggs from 75 units of stims...it doesn't get much less than that....you should probably only do Clomid or Letrozole and no injectables.

    And frankly....you should try to pull out of that shared risk deal. Say it's on religious grounds. They won't stop you - they don't want legal trouble. Then go somewhere that does real mini-ivf (your clinic does not) or natural cycle or somewhere that freezes eggs regularly with vitrification. Don't freeze eggs somewhere that doesn't do it all the time and doesn't have experience doing it. I doubt the clinic you're at has what you need, unfortunately.

  4. FWIW, even though NYC is correct in that 75 is usually the lowest stim dose, she could use a follistim or gonal f pen , and do half that per day- i've done that, works fine, you still get the benefits of injects and can tailor the dose to your needs. i've even mixed vials of menopur and just saved half until the next day.

    i agree about trying to extract yourself from the shared risk. if they quote you an 80% take home baby rate, that is only going to apply to someone who does a traditional ivf cycle-

    it really sounds like true mini -ivf and or/egg freezing is the way to go for you..

    have you considered doing a donor embryo cycle? these are embryos that incredibly generous people have donated after they are done with their family building. it is much more affordable than traditional ivf, and you can transfer as many or little as you want. just a thought.

  5. Thanks again for your thoughts. We have a lot to decide on...

    Yes, we have thought of a donor embryo cycle...definitely something to consider.

  6. reproductive biology associates_ RBA in atlanta Dr Shapiro- does egg freezing- reasonable cost 12k for ivf cycle with good stats- they use vitrification- so freezing process is much better.
    jen

  7. We have actually signed for the shared risk with our RE. It gives us 3 fresh cycles for a certain amount. I have an appointment with our RE in 2 weeks and I am going to talk to him about egg freezing--also about a more mini cycle. I will let you know what we decide. Thanks for the info!

    I find it curious and concerning that a clinic would let you sign up for a shared risk program without having gone over your cycle needs and treatment plan prior to doing so. To me that should have all been figured out and talked through before you were signing anything. I hope you have a very clear discussion with your RE when you meet with them in 2 weeks and figure out what they can offer that meets your specific needs and concerns and offers you a reasonable chance at success.

  8. Yes I had the same thought. If they were aware of your specific needs...I don't understand how they put you in the shared risk program. That might be enough reason for you to withdraw from the program.

    The shared risk program gives them an incentive to create, retrieve, and transfer more. Which is the opposite of what you want.

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