First time IVF in June. Any cycle buddies??

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  1. Happy Birthday Kaden & Liana

    What an exciting day! Hope you are doing well Alexa and the babies are fine. I know you will be SUPER busy but when you get a second send us a post so we know everything is okay. The names are beautiful! I'm glad you will have some help over the next few weeks. I can wait for the pics!

    Tracy: What's the news? Did Charlotte & Tyler come home? How are they doing? What about mom and dad?

    Compared with your big news girls I have nothing to report. 28.5 weeks and counting.
    Shannon

  2. okay, I have about 10 minutes...

    we are super excited to announce the birth of our long awaited babies Liana Jade and Kaden James Castellano, both born Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, at 9:23 am. Liana weighs 5 lbs 15 oz and Kaden weighs 4 lbs 14 oz. Both were born 17\" inches long and in great health. I am feeling well after my C-section, and both babies spent minimal time in the nursery for basic check ups, but never had any complications or visits to the NICU.

    we\'re back home now since yesterday, I started breastfeeding even though they're not super latchers, yet. we supplement with formula and I pump also. in the hospital we supplemented with syringes, but now at home with bottles. if we would continue the syringes, no sleep. we only have 1 hour between feeding now. first breast, then formula, then I pump.
    last night, first night at home, was very hard....no sleep at all, only crying, feeding and soothing. today during the day was great, on schedule feedings (we have to wake them most of the time) and good naps.

    tuesday will be pediatrian and we'll find out how they're gaining weight, which they started to do once we left hospital.

    here my pix link, sorry I don't have more time...
    we love them, they are soooo cute!

    pics.livejournal.com

    alexa

  3. Alexa, congrats! They are beautiful babies. What great sizes too, and coming home babies are something to be proud of.

    Keep up the good work with breastfeeding. Sometimes it takes a while, but it is sooo worth it. Tyler and Charlotte still use nipple shields to nurse, even at 7 weeks. It helps them with the latch. I can't remeber if your husband is taking time off to help? I'm glad to hear your section went well. You look awesome!!

    Shannon, seeing these babies must be making you excited? Your getting close now!

    As for me, both Tyler and Charlotte came home on Liana and Kaden's birthday(so it was a happy day all around!). They are free and clear of apnea's and brady's. Both nurse and bottle feed breastmilk, and we feed them on a schedule of every 3 to 3.5 hours around the clock. It makes it easier for us to feed and change them at the same time. That way, we get some sleep at night, and time during the day to do stuff that we need to do, like eat, shower lol!! DH is off work, and a constant helper. Right now, when I nurse one, he bottle feeds the other, then we switch next feeding. We've tried tandem nursing, but it didn't work well yet. I want to wait until both babies are better nursers and off the shield. My milk production slowed within a couple of days of them coming home, around the same time as I crashed. I've had some post partum depression, and spoke to my dr about it. I have to option of meds, but for now, I want to try and cope without. As long as I get out once a day, and can have some \"me\" time, I seem to be doing all right.

    Tyler is such a snuggle bunny. He wants to be held all the time. If I've got him, he's fine. If he's laying down, he's likely to yell. We joke that he is a little momma's boy, cause he calms so quickly for me and not for DH. Charlotte is such a placid little girl. She rarely fusses, loves looking around at everything. She's starting to learn to nurse without the shield, which is wonderful. Big brother Josh is very good with the babies. We talk with him about how he feels about having them here, and he say's that he's great with it. He tells me that he understands the amount of time we have to spend with them, because they need us. We struggle to spend time with him too, alone, so that he knows he's important.

    So I'm thinking that next year, I may transfer the remaining embryo on ice. As tiring as it is, I love being a mother. Course, DH is napping with the babies right now, so I'm giddy with free time.lol

    Talk to you all soon.
    Tracy
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    My moms website showing new pics

  4. Wow Ladies!!! Both of your sets of babies are adorable! Talk about emotional...I am welling up just looking at the pictures.

    Alexa: What beautiful, beautiful babies! And you look amazing for someone just coming out of surgery! It sounds like you have an exhausting schedule but they say after 6 weeks, things do get easier. It's great that you have DH around. Hopefully they'll start latching and then you won't have to pump and will get some extra time for sleep. How did the doctor's visit go? Are they gaining weight? Tell us all about them! Who's quiet, who's bossy etc. etc.

    Tracy: I can't believe how much they've changed already. IT must be so nice to have them home and your DH and son sound amazing. I can already see that Tyler looks like you in the cheeks. Sorry to hear about the depression but given all that you've been through - premies, health concerns, trips back and forth to the hospital etc. etc. it's bound to have an effect. One of my good friends suffered from postpartum and went on the meds. It's the only thing that helped her out of, what she called, the black hole. Remember to take care of yourself too and get the help you need. It's so good that you've recognized the steps and opened up to others.

    As for me, seeing your babies makes me even more anxious to have mine (well, not too anxious. He/she needs to stay in there for a while longer.) Tomorrow I am 30 weeks and we hope to finish the nursery over the weekend. We went to the States to do some baby shopping this week. Alexa, I am jealous. You guys have such a great selection over there! On Sunday I am having my first shower (just a small one with some of my mom's friends) and then on April 20th, I have another one. We started our prenatal classes a couple of weeks ago which we're really enjoying. AS of now, I feel fantastic - a bit tired, but who isn't? I have gained 31 pounds so far and I have an u/s in two weeks to check if my placenta has moved. If not, they will schedule a c-section. Okay mommies, take care, and check in when you get the chance.
    Shannon

  5. Shannon - thanks! yes they are gaining weight, on the day we left hospital they were back to not losing weight anymore, and yesterday, Kaden weighed 4lbs 12.4oz, so almost back to his 4lbs 14oz from birth.
    Liana wasn't weighed again, I did Kaden because I took a breastfeeding clinic class with him.

    I do breastfeed both babies (born at 37 weeks) separate now, with hubby's help I always have baby at boob while he's doing burping, changing, syringe feeding (BM and/or formula) skin-to-skin, etc., I am using breastshields due to my flat nipples. I do try now and then to take it off and check if they take breast without, but no luck so far.

    my husband is going back to work (at least some days of the week, rest from home) in about 2 weeks and I just want to make sure I'll be ready.

    I can always pump and breastfeed one and bottle feed the other one at the same time with EBM, in case when I'm alone...? Tracy, what are you planning on doing?

    Liana is definetely the quite one, even though both of them are great, we are on a schedule/plan for the feedings and they both feed and sleep at exact same time...they never awake from their naps so our naps are nice too. we are very lucky so far.

    my incision is healing fine and I am up and running again (except driving!)...I can't wait until I can start my swimming again and working on my abs. I did loose already almost 40lbs of my 50lbs I gained in my pregnancy, just like that, very surprising.

    hubby and I have a first date night out planned on april 5, it's an engagement party of friends of us locally. hubby's parents will be baby sitting, they come this easter weekend to practice a bit.

    gotta run again,
    xoxo
    alexa

  6. Alexa, sounds like you are doing great! Don't worry about the sheild. We still use one as well, because their mouths were to small. I'm strarting to wean them from it slowly. DH and I tag team the babies. Usually I nurse one while he bottle feeds the other EBM. For the middle of the night feedings, we often bottlke feed both case it's quicker. Once we get better at bfreastfeeding, we will tandem nurse.

    Please exscuse the typiung. I'm doing it one handed, tired, and sick.Both DH and I have come down with a bug. I realized last night I've been under the weather all winter. grrr

    Tracy

  7. shanon, tracy...

    oh my, we've been so busy, super sleep deprived, but every look into our darlings eyes and to hold them, it's worth every sleepless hour!

    breastfeeding continues to go well and get better, still using breast shields which help and only supplementing 20cc per baby, pumping as well as much as I can.

    Liana is 7lbs3oz now and Kaden 6lbs3oz, still exactly 1lbs difference, growing great and pediatrician appointments also good.

    I had my phases, crying, insecure, sadness......first couple weeks, definetely much better now and I am able to enjoy our little angels.

    DH went back to work today, so here I am tandem feeding and supplementing them in between in bouncers, with tummy time, burping and diaper changes, it still all takes 1 hour and 15 minutes, surely that will get shorter too.

    here some newly added pix at the end of the birth link:

    pics.livejournal.com

    congrats to all others, sorry no time for persies, nap time for me as well!

    alexa

  8. alexa, little cuties!! it will stay busy for a while yet, like 5 yeas lol. are they on schedule? that helps with more sleep

    shannon, getting close eh?

    i\'m always busy, typing one handed while nursing right now.

    tyler is about 7lbs now and charlotte is almost 9lbs. time flies

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    new pics
    ta
    tracy

  9. tracy...

    babies are 6 weeks old next week, they do get a bit fussier now at the late afternoon feeding, but really not bad. we always manage to soothe them in average 5-15 minutes, and they just fuss a bit, don't really cry or scream.

    still breastfeeding both of them, they go 2-3 latches now in one feeding, each of at least 15 minutes, we also sometimes give bottles, especially husband, so I can take a break and get 4 hours of sleep in a row! they take about 2-3 ounces now in the bottle.
    I finally bought the medela pump, it works great, same as the hospital grade I had for a month.

    we have a pretty good rythm now, they used to feed 8x at least in 24hrs, now sometimes, they sleep longer stretches, max. 4hours (from start of one feeding to another), so sometimes we end up with only 7 feedings, which my pediatrician says is fine, as long as they keep gaining weight good, which they do.
    they always gain over average, last week they gained 11 ounces in 7 days! so now they are up to 7 and 8 lbs.
    we\'re kind of following the dr. weissbluth infos, book: happy sleep habits....I love it.

    I feel good, of course still sleep deprived but I get the hang of it all much better, especially with DH back to work, I feed them by myself, I still supplement only 20cc per baby but only every other feeding, surely we can stop that soon too.

    okay and here some updated pix again:

    pics.livejournal.com

    as usual, new pix at the end

    alexa

  10. TRacy and Alexa,
    Both of your sets of twins look adorable and it sounds like you are all doing well and have settled into a routine. I still don't know how you do it though - sounds exhausting! I love looking at the pictures of your babes and you and your hubbies all look great as well. Has it been tough to lose the baby weight? I certainly hope it's easier than normally trying to lose weight! Glad to hear the breastfeeding is working out.

    I am doing really well and still enjoying every minute of being pregnant. I hope I feel this way 'til the end! I can't really complain at all; I haven't had back pain or too much discomfort yet. Last week at our u/s the baby weighed 4 pounds 10 oz. and was in position and the placenta previa is gone which was a HUGE relief. I am at 34 weeks and 3 days. WE've been so fortunate - I have already had 3 showers and I have another one next weekend and people have been extremely generous. Last night I started packing my bag (just in case).

    Thanks for keeping me updated on the babies. Keep well
    Shannon

  11. shannon,

    congrats on doing so well, especially for the placentia previa gone, that is great!

    in regards to lose baby weight, I gained 50lbs in my pregnancy, 1 week after delivery, I was up 22 lbs, about 3 weeks after, 15lbs, and now I am only up 7lbs from my regular 115lbs weight.
    no special diet, just breastfeeding, which helps a lot!

    I am 7 weeks post c-section now so I start swimming tomorrow, yeah!

    here some new pix at the end of our babes in bath!

    Tracy, what's new with you?

    pics.livejournal.com

    alexa

  12. Alexa, I'm SOOO jealous!! I put on 60lbs during the pregnancy, and at my postpartum(13w) I was down 30lbs, but I've since PUT ON WEIGHT!!! GRRR! I'm at 197lbs, with my pre-pregnancy weight being 165lbs. I think it's all in the belly and boobs thought

    Both babies are doing great! Charlotte is now 10lbs11oz, and Tyler is 8lbs11oz. A full 2lbs difference. Charlotte has had some nursing issues, making a clicking noise, and I'm getting treatment for a nipple yeast infection(yummy) lol!!

    Shannon, almost there! You must be getting so excited?! When is your due date again?? Aim for May 15th as that is my birthday. It's a good day lol! Or the 11th. What better day to give birth on then Mother's Day.

    So I'm doing well, keeping very busy with the babies, our older son and the house(and pets). We are getting ready to take the whole family to BC on the weekend for 3 weeks to show them off to my family. Back in Ontario for the begining of June. And who knows, we are thinking about doing a FET later this year. We have one embie on ice still, and would like to give it a try. We've been seriously thinking about moving back to BC, and would like to make sure that we are done with the baby making before we do that.

    Anywho, off to tend to babies and have a glass of milk before our evening walk.
    Talk to you all later
    Tracy

  13. Hi Ladies,
    Glad to hear you are both doing well and the babies are thriving. Tracy, hope you are enjoying your trip out west. How were the babies on the plane? You are such a trooper...another cycle of IVF!!! It makes sense though, especially if you are considering moving. Happy belated birthday by the way

    Alexa, how are you doing? I can't believe you have lost nearly all of your baby weight. That is amazing! Have you settled down into a routine now? How many times in a night are you still waking up to feed?

    Well, as of today, we are 1 week away from our due date (24th). The dr. said the baby has dropped so we are just waiting now. I am still working right until Friday but I wouldn't mind the baby's early arrival. Now I am feeling kind of anxious. I am not too nervous but it is just an odd feeling not knowing when any of this is going to happen. Did you guys feel this way?
    Anyway, when the baby arrives, I will post ASAP.

    Enjoy the long weekend!
    Shannon

  14. Shannon, any baby yet???? Your past the due date now. Very exciting. Let us know.

    Alexa, how are you? How are the cuties doing?

    We\'re getting to the end of our BC trip. We spent a week camping, which was great fun. All the kids enjoyed it. The family is thoroughly in love with Tyler and Charlotte. Just a few more days here before we return to Ontario. I'm gonna miss my family for sure.

    Off to visit. Tracy

  15. It's a perfect baby girl On Tuesday at 8:12 p.m. Ryley Mireya was born at 6 pounds 12 ounces. We just got home from the hospital yesterday so I thought I would update you all. It's been a very long and complicated few days with many, many surprises.

    On Tuesday morning everything was fine and then we went in for an u/s just to make sure everything was okay b/c she was overdue. The technician doing the u/s said the baby's heartbeat was on the slow side and there wasn't a lot of amniotic fluid and then we had trouble getting her to move. I figured I hadn't eaten in over three hours and that was the reason she was not moving so I wasn't overly concerned. After the u/s the technician said to wait around b/c our dr wasn't in and she wanted to call him. Then she sent us over to the hospital to go and talk to him there b/c he was on-call. We went over and when we saw him, he announced that today is the day. We were shocked b/c we weren't booked for an induction until the following Monday. He checked me out and said the cervix wasn't ripe yet and I had less than 1 cm. dilation but he would start me on the oxytocin. He said he didn't want to take any chances b/c the fluid was so low.

    Within minutes we were in the labouring room and contractions started very quickly. Everything was going fine until our dr came in to break my water. It was the most painful thing I have ever experienced! B/c my cervix wasn't soft, he had a very difficult time breaking the water. It took forever and I was ready to ask for an epidural just to get through it. In the end, he wasn't able to break it and said he would come back and do it all over again in an hour. We went back to the contractions and they were getting a lot stronger and everything was progressing well and then another dr. came in to try to break the waters. He still wasn't sure if it was broke b/c I only had a little bit of fluid. After that, things went downhill. The contractions were getting pretty close together (2 1/2 min.) but I still was only 2 cm dilated after 6 hours of labour and the baby's heartrate kept dropping everytime I had a contraction. They kept moving me to different positions but nothing worked. At one point, the baby's heartrate dropped down to 40 and then all of a sudden, three nurses and a doctor ran in the room so we knew things weren't going well. The dr. said that we may have to consider a c-section if things didn't improve but he would watch the next 10 contractions. Then I had two more and he said we must go ahead immediately. W/in 10 minutes I was in the OR and soon after she was born. IT was scary but an amazing experience seeing her for the first time.

    Unfortunately, the suprises didn't end there. For the first 24 hours everything was perfect - she was eating, sleeping, alert etc. Then the nightmare hit! On Wed. night she vomitted a thick, black substance. We showed the nurse and she said not to worry about it. Then she had a few more spit-ups of it - again told not to worry. Then she had two large vomits it and the nurse went to show the women in the special care unit. Withing minutes, Ryley was being examined and the dr. was called in. IT turns out she was vomitting blood. The next 18 hours were pure hell. I didn't stop crying the entire time. They didn't know if it was my blood she had in her stomach or her own blood. She had tubes down her nose and stomach to get the blood out and there were very large quantities of it. We saw our dr. and he said he had not seen it before. Thankfully the pediatrician and nurses were absolutely amazing. To make a very long story shorter, during the birth, Ryley had swallowed a lot of blood and it was sitting in her stomach. We got the test results and it was the best moment of our entire lives. We were able to start feeding again and after getting all of the blood out and finishing her antibiotics, she was able to come home. Now she is a completely healthy adorable gift! I have never been so grateful for anything in my entire life!

    Breastfeeding is going well and my DH has been amazing b/c I am still in a bit of pain with the c-section. Ryley lost a bit of weight with her little scare but she is such a good eater that I think she will gain it back quickly.

    Hope you are both doing well. Tracy, enjoy the rest of your time w/ your family. Alexa, how are you doing? Take care and thanks for all of your support over the past year!
    Shannon

  16. It's a perfect baby girl On Tuesday at 8:12 p.m. Ryley Mireya was born at 6 pounds 12 ounces. We just got home from the hospital yesterday so I thought I would update you all. It's been a very long and complicated few days with many, many surprises.

    On Tuesday morning everything was fine and then we went in for an u/s just to make sure everything was okay b/c she was overdue. The technician doing the u/s said the baby's heartbeat was on the slow side and there wasn't a lot of amniotic fluid and then we had trouble getting her to move. I figured I hadn't eaten in over three hours and that was the reason she was not moving so I wasn't overly concerned. After the u/s the technician said to wait around b/c our dr wasn't in and she wanted to call him. Then she sent us over to the hospital to go and talk to him there b/c he was on-call. We went over and when we saw him, he announced that today is the day. We were shocked b/c we weren't booked for an induction until the following Monday. He checked me out and said the cervix wasn't ripe yet and I had less than 1 cm. dilation but he would start me on the oxytocin. He said he didn't want to take any chances b/c the fluid was so low.

    Within minutes we were in the labouring room and contractions started very quickly. Everything was going fine until our dr came in to break my water. It was the most painful thing I have ever experienced! B/c my cervix wasn't soft, he had a very difficult time breaking the water. It took forever and I was ready to ask for an epidural just to get through it. In the end, he wasn't able to break it and said he would come back and do it all over again in an hour. We went back to the contractions and they were getting a lot stronger and everything was progressing well and then another dr. came in to try to break the waters. He still wasn't sure if it was broke b/c I only had a little bit of fluid. After that, things went downhill. The contractions were getting pretty close together (2 1/2 min.) but I still was only 2 cm dilated after 6 hours of labour and the baby's heartrate kept dropping everytime I had a contraction. They kept moving me to different positions but nothing worked. At one point, the baby's heartrate dropped down to 40 and then all of a sudden, three nurses and a doctor ran in the room so we knew things weren't going well. The dr. said that we may have to consider a c-section if things didn't improve but he would watch the next 10 contractions. Then I had two more and he said we must go ahead immediately. W/in 10 minutes I was in the OR and soon after she was born. IT was scary but an amazing experience seeing her for the first time.

    Unfortunately, the suprises didn't end there. For the first 24 hours everything was perfect - she was eating, sleeping, alert etc. Then the nightmare hit! On Wed. night she vomitted a thick, black substance. We showed the nurse and she said not to worry about it. Then she had a few more spit-ups of it - again told not to worry. Then she had two large vomits it and the nurse went to show the women in the special care unit. Withing minutes, Ryley was being examined and the dr. was called in. IT turns out she was vomitting blood. The next 18 hours were pure hell. I didn't stop crying the entire time. They didn't know if it was my blood she had in her stomach or her own blood. She had tubes down her nose and stomach to get the blood out and there were very large quantities of it. We saw our dr. and he said he had not seen it before. Thankfully the pediatrician and nurses were absolutely amazing. To make a very long story shorter, during the birth, Ryley had swallowed a lot of blood and it was sitting in her stomach. We got the test results and it was the best moment of our entire lives. We were able to start feeding again and after getting all of the blood out and finishing her antibiotics, she was able to come home. Now she is a completely healthy adorable gift! I have never been so grateful for anything in my entire life!

    Breastfeeding is going well and my DH has been amazing b/c I am still in a bit of pain with the c-section. Ryley lost a bit of weight with her little scare but she is such a good eater that I think she will gain it back quickly.

    Hope you are both doing well. Tracy, enjoy the rest of your time w/ your family. Alexa, how are you doing? Take care and thanks for all of your support over the past year!
    Shannon

  17. hi shannon !

    congrats to your baby girl! what a scary story, but still beautiful, hope your recovery will go smooth...just keep eating those painkillers, I remember, I had no choice because I had to be up and running when we got back from hospital.
    how is your baby now? good luck with breastfeeding....how are the nights and all going?

    Tracy - how about you? what's new with babies? do you still breastfeed and how often?

    here all good....I still breastfeed, it's getting harder, they goof around a lot at the breast and often I have to combine the bottle with EBM, they eat about 5-6 oz now, sometimes hubby does full bottle feedings to give me a break, which is nice...babies never had nipple confusion.
    needless to say, I pump a lot.

    weights:
    Kaden 10lbs 9oz
    Liana 11lbs 4oz
    so 2lbs every month, right on track

    our feedings still take 1 1/2 hours, with breast included and play time...if we do bottle only, they get better and eat faster. we have to burp them after every 1-2 ounces, which slows it down, but it's better for them.

    my milk supply is fine, I am taking fenugreek, that helps....

    we are at 5 feedings during day and evening and one middle of the night feeding, so pretty good, they are going 5-6 hours now, that's the long stretch at night for sleep, then the 2nd stretch at night is about 3-4 hours, so we're lucky.

    also, their day time naps seem to fall in place, they sleep pretty good, still swaddling them...they usually nap around 1 1/2 hours during day for each nap. if they miss a nap, we can tell, the feeding after won't go that well and their cranky. so we plan around the babies....

    we do go out quite a lot, we went already to a wedding with them, at the beach, visit friends, twin club events, etc.

    they are adorable and smile a lot now, and talk in their cute baby language, we are still sleep deprived but it's getting better. I was pretty overwhelmed for a while in their month 2, just not enough sleep and a hard time with their feedings, it's much better now.
    I also have a helper twice a week for 2x 5hours, she helps me with feedings and household.
    hubby is working mostly from home, still helps me with everything including night feeding, he's a trooper!

    here our updated link with new pix in month 3 and 4 ! :

    pics.livejournal.com

    xoxo
    alexa

  18. Shannon, congratulations!!! That sounds like a really scary event, but it's great that she's here now. Riley is such a beautiful name. I'd love to see some pictures of her. How are you feeling now? How's the feeding going? How is Riley's weight gain?

    Alexa, boy do you have a couple of cuties! A couple of future football fans, eh? Sounds like you have a good routine going. What kind of play activities do you do with them during the day? What is their daytime nap schedule like?

    At our end, things are going well. Hubby is still on leave with us until November, so having the both of us here is a great help. At their most recent weigh in, Tyler was 11lbs 8 oz, and Charlotte was 13lbs 3 oz. This was last week. Both babies are growing very well, with Tyler putting on 7cm in height in the last month. They are both still breastfeeding, but my double electric pump didn't survive my trip from BC to Ontario last week, and because of the BPA bottle recall in Canada, there are no double electirc pumps to be had in the city now. DH went and bought me a manual pump. I'm suplementing with Enfamil Gentlesse formula. Tyler has quite bad reflux, so he goes through a lot of clothes lol!! I'll be speaking to the ped about it. Charlotte has an appt with the ped at the end of this month because she is reluctant to turn her head evenly to the left and right. We had an assessment done of the kids to see if they are developing as they should be. They are pretty much on track for their corrected age (2.5months). Both need to strengthen their necks some more.

    It's crazy to know that they are almost 5 months old now.In some ways, it doesn't seem that they have been around that long, cause they were in the NICU for 6 weeks. Sometimes, I find it really hard, because with 2 of them, we are both pretty much always \"on\". I have days where I can't even get organized enough to have a shower, and others where I get everything done, and still feel full of energy and iniative. They are so much fun, with their totally different personalities. Tyler is becoming really aware of other people, and will look at Charlotte now and smile when he sees her. He's been recognizing DH, DS and I for a while, but seeing her is a new thing. Charlotte is such an old soul, looking at the world with these eyes that say \"I've seen that before\".

    We took them swiming at the local YMCA today, and man, did they love it. Kick kick kick. Too cute!!! Course, they went to bed right away after. I'm sure they are going to sleep really well tonight.

    As soon as I get a chance to upload some new pictures to the site, I'll post them on here.

    Take care ladies
    Tracy

  19. hello all and welcome back !

    Kaden must be at least 12lbs by now and Liana 13lbs I think, we go to Pedi on 7/18 so will know more then. we measured them last week for length at home, needed for passports, Kaden outgrew his sister by half inch, he is now 2 feet 1 inch!

    now, I was wondering if I could get some advice, I need to explain a bit first so please be patient thanks!

    question:

    my girl Liana starting STTN a couple weeks ago, well, she did it twice a week and by now, pretty much every other night, then, they day after STTN, sometimes she naps normal. but mostly, she's just up all day!
    her brother Kaden still feeds once at night, around 2 or 3am, during the day, they have now one early am nap after early am feeding, then they go back down pretty quick and have another nap around 11ish.
    in the afternoon they only take one long nap and then they are up around 6pm for the bedtime routine, we manage putting them down (after feeding a lot!) around 8 or 8:30pm.

    long story, is Liana up all day because she starts to STTN and her body has to adjust? I just don't know and I am soooo exhausted because I try everything in soothing to put her down for naps like her brother and she won't do it, she used to be a great napper, I could put her down half awake and she would soothe herself to sleep.
    just wondering if I will have to adjust to twins that are on different day schedules? I do not think so.

    also, I think maybe she is ready for switching from 2 am naps to 1 ? she does not seem to need all that sleep that Kaden does, how do I do that transission? I do have to get 4 day feedings in, that includes the evening/bedtime routine feeding, but not the middle of the night (for Kaden). also, do I have to add a day feeding for her now that she's STTN? how do I add a day feeding if there is not the nap before?

    I have to explain my feedings though as they make it all more difficult. babies wake up I feed, they only take about 2, max. 3 oz...then it's wake/play time ( and lots of burping/spit up - Kaden with reflux), they will not eat anything in that time ! only when I swaddle them and get them ready to go down again they will eat another 2 or 3 oz, also, I cannot feed them together, I have to bottle feed them separate, do to their positions they want to be in to be fed. they are very specific, Kaden likes to be fed by the window in the nursery, looking out at the tree and me bouncing him on a gym ball, Liana is a tad easier and I can feed her at different places.

    I know it sounds like I am not the boss, and I am not sure if I should be, I just want to respond to their needs.

    any help appreciated, will post new pix soon !

    alexa

    PS: Kaden gets EBM and Liana formula, I am writing this during my night pumping session, no time for computer during the day

  20. Alexa, sorry your tired! I know what that's like.

    Every baby is different and has different needs. That being said, I'm a believer in schedules that both babies are on. At this age, children are very flexible and in my parenting book (lol) I take their needs into consideration, but I set the rules. If your little girl is STTN, congrats! That is awesome. When she is up during the day and not taking her naps, is she fussy, cranky, tired or happy? At this age, babies still need to nap during the day. They may not want to nap, but they need to. When ours started STTN, they went from 3 or 4 naps to 2. They struggled, and still do, and sometimes they have to cry it out. If they miss their naps, they are exhasusted.

    Here is our routine:
    6-7am: babies wake one at a time and get nursed in bed. Back to sleep!
    9am: babies up. Play time, have some rice pablum.
    10am: Nurse or bottle. Play and talk time
    11-12: go down for a nap in here. Sometimes for an hour, sometimes less, sometimes more
    1pm: up nurse, play, talk.
    3pm: nap time
    5pm: dinner sometimes short nap after
    7pm: bath
    8pm: nurse and bed.

    These times are approximate of course. Both Tyler and Charlotte nurse on demand, so they fuss, they get the boob.

    If having the babies on a schedule is best for you and your hubby then do it. If not then don't. You are the boss in your house Just a friendly word of advice though is that this is the best time in your childs life to set routines that YOU can live with. It's easier to make good habits then break bad ones. I had to stop myself from nursing the twins to sleep for their naps because the began to expect it, and what happens when I'm out during nap time? DH can't nurse them lol!!!

    Keep up the good work. It's tiring but it gets better.
    Tracy

  21. oh and here my updated pix link, new ones in the 4th month +, enjoy !

    pics.livejournal.com

    alexa

  22. so it seemed like Liana only went through a phase, this whole week, I have them on the dream schedule, by the book, I know it can only be a phase too, they go through so much changes every week, but hopefully this one will stick for a while:

    7:00/7:30am wake-up, feed
    9:00am back down for nap until 11:00am
    11:00am feed, wake/playtime until 1:00pm
    1:00pm nap until 3:00pm
    3:00pm feed, wake/playtime and down for cat nap at 5
    5:00pm nap until 6ish
    then evening routine incl. walk, sometimes bath
    usually back down for the nite around 8pm

    then we usually have only 1 nite feeding left, around 3 or 4, sometimes even later, and now and then, Liana sleeps through the nite.

    oh and Caro, they do have plenty of wet diapers, at least 6-7, and Liana poops of course more often, formula, Kaden poops less, and thank god, less stinky!

    so will keep all updated, I cut my hair and feel great, see siggy and photo link.

    alexa

  23. okay this is my 3rd post in a row hehe.

    ok here the update from our pedi visit today:

    Liana: 13lbs14oz
    Kaden: 12lbs10oz

    so both babies gaining good weight, which is a relief, especially for Kaden, I am always a bit worried about his intake because of the reflux, he eats less than Liana and it's harder to get food into him.
    they also got more vaccin shots and did not even cry! pedi said Liana is very curious and very strong girl, Kaden is very mellow....

    he suggested we start rice cereal, just once in the morning, a teaspoon for one oz EBM or formula, he said we can do it before bottle, only if they still take bottle well, if not, switch it and do cereal afterwards.

    he also suggests to start massaging their gums with a clean wash cloth, so they will get used to it. for once the teeth come, we have to clean their gums. he said if they are not used to that you rub your finger in there, they will bite you, so I start doing that tomorrow as well, am and pm.

    he also said we can try and give Kaden a specific non-allergic formula (for colic), it's the Nutramigen Lipid (orange one), just 1 or 2 oz, and rest BM. I doubt he will like it, we tried now and then to give him a little of Liana's formula, which is the Nestle/Good Start-natural cultures, he does not like it!
    it would help for his reflux, well, I try...but I definetely keep pumping and have EBM for him.

    so all is pretty good....I will set up their feedings seats now, we have the ones that you attach to the regular dining tables, so they can eat with us at the table[].

    ok that's it for now....

    alexa

  24. My turn to post lol!

    Tyler is now 14lbs 0.5 oz
    Charlotte is 15lbs 4.5 oz

    Both are growing well, almost 6 months now They are eating cereal (rice or oat baby cereal), and sometimes sweet potatoes or peaches or applesauce. Tyler is an awesome eater, always enjoying it. Charlotte is interested in it sometimes, but not others. Tyler gets a bit of an upset tummy from either the oat cereal or peaches, so we are trying them one at a time again to see which one. He's a real momma's boy, always wanting to be with me. Charlotte has discovered her voice and loves chatting us up, at full volume if possible.It's so sweet to hear a little girl voice in the house.

    Both babies are still nursing, and getting formula as well. I give the Enfamil A+ Gentalese formula. It's easier on Tyler's stomach. I do pump still, but not much anymore. No time lol!! Both babies are amazing pukers! The pedi said that as long as they are growing and not hurt by it, then we won't worry. They usually grow out of it by the time they are 6months(corrected age).

    We've got a pretty good routine down here. I take both babies out twice a week to a local drop in centre to spend time with other mom's and babies. It's nice to be able to talk to grownups! The naps are going fairly well, and except for some cluster feeding for Tyler, they sleep through the night.

    So is anyone else thinking about doing it again? It's been a year now isn't that nuts??

    Shannon, are you still around??

    Tracy

    flickr.com

  25. hey tracy,

    good to hear you are doing so well with the babies, I hear you about pumping, I still do after each feeding, which is 4x in the day and one middle of the nite....I have plenty of milk, maybe in a month or so I'll dropp the middle of the nite pumping, it will depend when they are seriously starting to STTN.

    can I ask you a couple questions in regards to cereal?

    as per our pedi appt yesterday, we started rice cereal for the first time this morning, it went pretty well, our girl Liana (13lbs14oz) ate the whole 1tsp/1oz, Kaden (12lbs10oz) managed half of it. I mixed the cereal with EBM.

    questions:

    - at what time(s) do you give the cereal? our pedi suggested morning, and later on when 2x, evening as well. I was wondering if I could do evening instead of morning to begin with, DH is always with me in the evening to help and we would include it in the nite routine. (which strangely, we also include a walk)

    - at what point do you increase the rice cereal amount? pedi said up to 1 tbsp for 1oz, but I don't know when.....

    - do you give it before or after bottle? pedi said before, but make sure they still eat enough bottle, if not, do it after. after does not really work for us, because we are doing the sleep/eat/wake/eat thing. (for those of you not knowing our babes, they are difficult eaters and only eat in steps...)

    Kaden is still on reflux medication, which we have to give him as well in the am, first thing in the morning and then he has to wait 15min until he eats something. he ususally gets a bit groggy of it, so that is another reason why maybe it's better for us in the evening. also, does it help night time sleep to feed cereal in evening?

    also, with 1oz mixed with only 1tsp of cereal, it is very runny, I am thinking of making it thicker already, I mean Kaden already has some in his bottle now and then and Liana did so great this am, I am sure she can take it, what do you think? maybe I do it 1/1 ???

    thanks!
    alexa

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