IVF Pregnancy Information

1. antoine_t
   
   

   had a good 8 week u/s bean measuring 8 weeks 1 day, i was 8 week 2days. Doc said if i make it thru 10 weeks should be good. hopeful- how are you and wife doing???Jen

   Good news for you. I hope you make it through this. Make sure to keep us updated. My wife and I are always thinking about you and your husband. As for me, I have been trying to stay away from the internet as much as possible to avoid depressing myself too much. I've read about some terrible outcomes where the NT scan was 4 mm at 10 weeks. I have also read many super inspirational stories where the NT scans resulted in a normal pregnancy and I think those stories make me the most nervous because we have the worse luck ever.
   The hardest part about last week's appointment was watching all the smiling and kissing couples after they got their happy and healthy 12 week scans. I was so pi%$ed! Our doctors again saw the high nuchal translucency. We had a blood test and scheduled an appointent at Beumont, but they are saying they do not feel comfortable doing the CVS test. So, we found a peri at Hutzel and have our appointment next Thursday. We will be at 12 weeks then, so we hope to begin genetic counseling along with more tests.

   My wife went to our last IVF appontment this week and said the baby was kicking and moving so much that they could not get a very good u/s picture. Hard to feel happy about that. Why is this happening again?

3. ELENIN
   
   

   Jenga- GREAT news! I wish you continued good news!

   HH- You could not be in better care than at Hutzel. It took me the death of my twins in order for me to wake up and use Hutzel, and I received the very best care there. Had I gone to Hutzel to begin with (I was at Beaumont) my twins would be alive right now.
   Beaumont just isn't equipped for serious situations. Sure, the can fix a broken leg, stitch up a cut- they are a 'community hospital'- but they have no idea how to treat a high risk pregnancy.
   

   Quote:

   Perinatology Research Branch Home to the nation’s only National Institutes of Health (NIH) Perinatology Research Branch, Wayne State University and Hutzel Women’s Hospital are recognized as national leaders in women’s health research.

   
   I suspect A2 is about as good. But Beaumont? No way.

   Let us know how it goes! I can't wait until you've seen a proper Peri.

4. ELENIN
   
   

   How are you guys doing?
   How about filling us in?

5. antoine_t
   
   

   How are you guys doing?How about filling us in?

   Let me just say, Hutzel is great. Thank you. The doctors and genetic conselor made us feel comfortable and discussed lots of information that I am still digesting.

   The NT Scans are still a concern, but the measurement went down today...
   3.6-4.3 at Beamont @ 10 weeks

   2.2-2.7 at Hutzel @ 12 weeks (As of today)

   The doctor said that since she had a little gush of blood on Sunday (and some SCH was spotted in the u/s) that they didn't feel comfortable doing the CVS/FISH Test. So, we might be able to reschedule, but part of us really want to wait for the amnio because of the 1% risk of miscarriage with CVS. We are very scared about that 1% statistic because we always seem to fall into that category. Do you or anyone know any outcomes/stories of people who had increased NT folds at 10 weeks, but then they decreased by week 12? The Hutzel staff said that there is very litttle research about the outcomes of these cases. More waiting...Thanks for asking about us. How are you all doing?

6. ELENIN
   
   

   Dave, that is very, very good news indeed. I knew you would like Hutzel.
   I think I'm going to migrate all of my son's Doctors to Children's eventually. He hasn't had anything too serious (thank G-d) since his birth; just the normal childhood physical stuff.
   I used to think it was so far away, but it really isn't. You can get there in 15 - 20 minutes from just about anywhere in the metro area.
   

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   Do you or anyone know any outcomes/stories of people who had increased NT folds at 10 weeks, but then they decreased by week 12?

   
   If someone put a gun to my head and said I had to answer this question, since I've never heard of this happening, I would have to guess and say that Beaumont's measurements were either clouded by the SCH ~or~ they farked up. Knowing Beaumont, I would say the latter.

   As far as waiting for the amnio- I would advise you follow your gut. Wait if you want to. Give yourselves a little break.

   I'm going to assume that Jenga's progress report is just a favorable!

   Updates, Please!

7. Les_petits_debr
   
   

   Hopeful- glad to hear you have some promising news- i know you guys aren't \"out of the woods\" yet- but really praying everything is going to go fine for you both and baby.

   I am 9 weeks 4 days- and u/s yesterday looked fine- doc said nuchal looked fine at this point everything looked normal- we'll see as the weeks progress. I feel like if everything is good next week maybe i can't start thinking positively that this will indeed happen- but gunshy as I know you are too Hopeful.

   Thanks for asking ELENIN. My big problem is going to be weight gain- i am still on steroids until 12 weeks- i am only 6 lbs shy of my 40 week weight with my ds 4 plus years ago, i have blown up, and am ready to stop taking these steroids- but anything to make this pregnancy last.

   Jen

8. Les_petits_debr
   
   

   i hope no news is good news.
   Had my 10 week2 day appt, baby measured 10 weeks 3 days- all looked good. Trying to be positive that things are looking good. Next appt at 12 weeks.

   Hopeful- hope ya'll are okay.
   Jen

9. antoine_t
   
   

   i hope no news is good news.Had my 10 week2 day appt, baby measured 10 weeks 3 days- all looked good. Trying to be positive that things are looking good. Next appt at 12 weeks.Hopeful- hope ya'll are okay.Jen

   Hi. I've been checking every so often to see how you are all doing. Hoping you are all enjoying some healthy pregnancies because you surely deserve it. It's been very quiet these days. I'm just trying to keep my mind on other things as we wait.
   Here's my update: (I hope you all update too)
   Anyway, as for my wife and I and our fertility problems...I haven't really updated since we've been at a stand still and I've been trying to be less of a downer lately. The one baby (we were pregnant with twins) died and it's reabsorbing at a normal pace. So sad, but nice to see it's doing what it's supposed to do. The weaker baby is still alive (and hopefully getting stronger) but they did some screening on the baby at 10 and 12 weeks and it has a chance of being sick. It could be either chromosonal, a heart defect, or 200+ other disorders. My wife's bleeding is beginning to settle down and reabsorb, but we keep on hearing that once you have SCH it can always happen again. So, she remains on modified bedrest and she is getting out, walking a little bit (got her a pair of shape-ups), but that's about it. She also continues to be on a short-term disiability leave and most likely will be laid off or just leave that crazy school. So finances are a little tight lately with one income. Stress...

   Now, she is at 15 weeks and 5 days and the baby is alive but we need to make more decisions of chromosone testing. Not sure what to do. You know about these tests, there's an incredible amount of screening that is scaring the living sh%$ out of us. Every appointment we go to, I'm a basketcase and on edge. I think the doctors are begginning to think I have problems. Oh well, I just want it to work out so bad and it kills me to hear bad news everytime when go in. Meanwhile other couples around us are hugging eachother, smiling, laughing, and calling all their relatives to tell them that their baby in healthy.

   We passed on the CVS test 3 weeks ago because it has a 1% chance to cause misscarriage. Last Thursday, we passed up the amnio test because it has a 1/2% chance of misscarriage. At this point, I don't think we care if our baby has a defect. We've never made it this far in pregnancy so we are just happy that the baby is alive. So, we wait and pray and leave it to God to decide if this baby will make it or not. What would you do? We have a chance to get in on Thursday to do the amnio test? Decisions, urrrrrg.

   -Dave/aka HopefulH

10. antoine_t
    
    

    P.S. We LOVE Hutzel. Thanks again.

11. ELENIN
    
    

    Hi guys!
    I can't believe it's been since before Christmas since we last had an update.

    Jen- Are you still on the 'roids? I just tried to figure it out on my calendar, and you are at 16 weeks, too? Don't worry about the weight gain. It will come off quickly, especially if it's from steroids.
    I hope everything is great for you and you had a good Holiday.
    Hopefully, 2010 will be the year!

    Dave- great to hear from you, too. I was a little worried because you hadn't posted in a while, and you were so worried at the last post.
    After your last post, I Googled (and so did my DH) everything there was on nuchal folds getting smaller, and neither one of us came up with anything. DH just shrugged his shoulders and said, \"Perhaps it was an error in the first place- but if she's at Hutzel- I'd trust their measurements before Beaumont\'s\"
    I'm glad the baby is doing fine at 16 weeks.. and it does seem like yesterday that you had the transfer.
    I'm sorry that DW might be getting laid off. These are stressful times, indeed.

    As far as getting an amnio, I always tell my friends this: If the results of the test do not alter the outcome of what you decide to do, then why bother?
    Of course, some people just want to be prepared in advance, but I'm biased, so I can't really advise on this one.
    I can tell you that Hutzel doesn't sugar coat anything- so they will tell you the worst case scenario just because they've seen it all, they are a bit 'tarnished'. So, it's impossible to get a read on them, KWIM? That drove me nuts a little, but I was comforted by it also- they knew their stuff! Sort of like our RE.

    Please keep us posted, both of you!

12. koulami
    
    

    Hopeful Husband,

    I am always looking for updates from you. I'm glad to hear you are hanging in there. Since you mentioned God, I am going to share something........
    Recently, because of lots of non-IVF related health issues with my children's dad (brain tumor/Multiple Sclerosis), I found the Green Scapular. As with all the other Scapulars, it's devoted to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This particular Scapular is devoted to healing. You can find them at any religious store. There's a very simple prayer that goes along with it......\"Immaculate Heart of Mary, Pray for us now and at the hour of our death.\" IT is probably the most powerful prayer out there. I am confident that God is watching over you and your wife and your baby. I am a firm believer in the power of prayer......just wanted to pass this one along to you guys.

    Amy

13. Les_petits_debr
    
    

    Hopeful- so glad u guys r hanging inthere. Please keep us updated.

    AFM- I am 14 weeks 3 days. Pregnancy going well. BAD NEWS- I found out jan 8 that my husband had been having a 3-4 month long affair that ended in november. I am pretty devistated- not sure what to do but try to work it out- he is very \"sorry\" and begging me to forgive him and not divorce. His affair was with a married woman who had kids, an idiot- right now I hate him and want to make him pay- but with a 3 1/2 year old and baby on the way- my children would suffer more than him. Why do people do this?
    Jen

14. ELENIN
    
    

    WTF?
    Oh, gosh- Jen. I think under the circumstances I would try and work it out, BUT, under the circumstances I'd be twice as mad!
    I know that IF puts a strain on marriage (they've done polls) and the fact is, some people go a little nuts when they find themselves out of control.
    I would (you're gonna kill me) suggest individual counseling for a while- you need to get this out of your system (I can't imagine the RAGE), while he has to figure out WTF!
    Then, perhaps do some couples therapy, but it's going to take some time.
    I\'m here to support you!

15. antoine_t
    
    

    Hopeful Husband,I am always looking for updates from you. I'm glad to hear you are hanging in there. Since you mentioned God, I am going to share something........Recently, because of lots of non-IVF related health issues with my children's dad (brain tumor/Multiple Sclerosis), I found the Green Scapular. As with all the other Scapulars, it's devoted to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. This particular Scapular is devoted to healing. You can find them at any religious store. There's a very simple prayer that goes along with it......\"Immaculate Heart of Mary, Pray for us now and at the hour of our death.\" IT is probably the most powerful prayer out there. I am confident that God is watching over you and your wife and your baby. I am a firm believer in the power of prayer......just wanted to pass this one along to you guys.Amy

    Thanks Amy. It feels good to go back to being more religious again. I really isolated myself from family, friends, and God when things just kept on getting worse. It's sad that I distanced myself from so much and I'm glad everyone has been so supportive and has welcomed us back. Thanks for the post. I pray at least three times a day and so does my support team. Thank you.

16. antoine_t
    
    

    Hopeful- so glad u guys r hanging inthere. Please keep us updated.AFM- I am 14 weeks 3 days. Pregnancy going well. BAD NEWS- I found out jan 8 that my husband had been having a 3-4 month long affair that ended in november. I am pretty devistated- not sure what to do but try to work it out- he is very \"sorry\" and begging me to forgive him and not divorce. His affair was with a married woman who had kids, an idiot- right now I hate him and want to make him pay- but with a 3 1/2 year old and baby on the way- my children would suffer more than him. Why do people do this?Jen

    Jen,
    Oh my gosh and WTF! I couldn't believe it when I read this last update. You 2 are so strong, I think you'll figure out what's the best for everyone involved. We are here to support you in whatever you need or whatever you want to vent. I just can't believe how much can happen when stress, anger and sadness hits you from all angles. I am very happy to hear you're pregnancy is going well though. Please keep us posted.

    My wife, is almost 18 weeks and we are getting an anomaly scan ( I think that is what it is called) along with an echo to check for heart defects. I'm getting anxious again. Take care all.

17. ELENIN
    
    

    Jen, Oh my gosh and WTF! I couldn't believe it when I read this last update. You 2 are so strong, I think you'll figure out what's the best for everyone involved. We are here to support you in whatever you need or whatever you want to vent. I just can't believe how much can happen when stress, anger and sadness hits you from all angles. I am very happy to hear you're pregnancy is going well though. Please keep us posted. My wife, is almost 18 weeks and we are getting an anomaly scan ( I think that is what it is called) along with an echo to check for heart defects. I'm getting anxious again. Take care all.
    KEEP US POSTED!

18. ELENIN
    
    

    Updates, please!

19. antoine_t
    
    

    I can't believe it...Gonna be 19 weeks on Tuesday. We went to Hutzel last Thursday for lots of tests and had some good news for once. We even got some amazing 4d shots that make me cry everytime I look at them. The only thing they saw was a a little calcification/dark spot on the heart. 4 doctors came to evaluate/recheck everything. Has anyone ever had that happen? This is finally seeming more real than ever. I just pray every day that everything is ok. My wife had a terrible nightmare last night. She dreamt that she woke up and was bleeding more than a period. She was really scared, but we are both feeling a little better now. How's everyone else doing? Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.

20. ELENIN
    
    

    19 weeks!!!! Congrats!
    I\'m afraid to ask, but do you know the gender yet? Did you do the amnio?

    Wow, time goes by so fast..

21. Les_petits_debr
    
    

    Hopeful- congrats on reaching 19 weeks- you guys are probably almost 20 now.

    I am going to be 17 weeks on monday- doc appt friday- just fetal heart tones- doing fine.

    My level II is february 16th- praying all is well-scared out of my mind too.

    Dh and i are doing counseling- but i am having a rough time- reading a book about surviving an affair- and honestly it makes me want to run for the hills b/c it is bringing up more questions and mistrust issues for me- i believe this was a one time thing- but the book makes me worried he will rekindle with her just b/c it wouldn't be hard. I don't want to live like this.

    But i don't really want to divorce and have to go thru custody ****, visitation etc b/c i know it will be hard for my children- then thinking about potential step parent issues- B/C i know my dh would quickly replace me, he has proven it isn't hard to do for him- and i don't want my children to go thru that.

    SO ultimately i will probably stay married and make it work the best i can- just to ensure my children have a normal home- and make sure my DH doesn't get to screw everything up and then live a nice \"CHILD FREE LIFE\" b/c he won't be having anymore children- he truly didn't want this one. Sad.
    Jen

22. antoine_t
    
    

    ELENIN and Jen (and everyone else too ,

    We are actually going to be at 20 weeks this coming Tuesday (2/9). We passed on the CVS test earlier (10 weeks?) and then passed twice now on the amnio. We just didn't want to risk anything or trigger any more bleeding, rupturing, etc. The ultrasound tech at Hutzel did confirm it was a boy at 18 weeks. Miracle boy, right? We have only told our family about that news. It's strange that we had tons or girl names picked out, but not many boy names. Picking out a name is difficult. But, we like this problem much better than bleeding at the ER every Sunday afternoon. Those days are hard to forget. So, as we passed last week on the amnio again, the ultrasound tech reccommended that we might want to do a Quad screening. We asked why, and she said she felt so bad that we haven't been able to enjoy this pregnancy at all and this might help you relax a little if we got good results. So, she twisted our arms and we decided to do that test. The Quad results came back really promising with super low chances of having disorders or chromosomal complications. Like I said, we were prepared to take on anything since we are thrilled to actually be half way there. The farthest we've ever made it is 12 weeks. However, when telling people how far along we are or even typing about it right now...I get nervous that something bad will be happening soon. I guess those feelings won't change until the baby is born.

    We had some super cool 4D ultrasounds at 18 weeks too. They were AMAZING! There's a picture that looks like our little boy is smiling. My wife is happier than ever and actually showing now. I love seeing her belly. We haven't had a lot of kicking yet though. When did you have your first feelings of movement? She did sneeze on the way to the doctor appointment to feel a \"flick\". I think it's so subtle she doesn't feel it. I can't wait until I can feel it. I ask her everyday I get home from work and I think it's starting to annoy her. We are struggling in finances, bouncing checks and such...But I don't even care as long as we get a healthy baby soon. I guess I'll have to stress out about finances eventually though.

    Jenga,
    Both my wife and I think of your situation a lot and pray for you. It's unfortuanate that it's happening now. Hopefully, everything will work out. I don't think there's ever an excuse or answer...But there's always hope that things can turn around and you will both get stronger from it. Everyone I've ever talked to that have gone through something like this have turned out differently. Some made it and some went there separate ways. You'll find your way. It just may take awhile. You seem like a great person with great morals. Stay strong and thank you for the update. This site and everyone on it have really helped us both in more ways than we ever imagined.

    -antoine_t, Dave

23. Les_petits_debr
    
    

    Hopeful- so glad to hear good news- a little boy- they r a lot of fun!! I know it is hard not to expect something bad- but finally things r on the right path- stay as optimistic as u can. U have reached a milestone- really love that wife of yours. So happy for u both that quad came back normal.
    Jen

24. koulami
    
    

    Hopeful,

    A little man, how wonderful! You and the Mrs. are never far from my thoughts and prayers. You'll start to feel the flutters soon. Sometimes it's obscured because there's an anterior placenta. I am so happy for you! It is my prayer for you and your wife that the Blessed Mother keep you wrapped in her medal of blue and protect you all.

    Amy

25. Les_petits_debr
    
    

    hopeful- how are you guys doing???? almost 22 or more weeks?

    Had my level II u/s today- looks like a girl for us- healthy is most important- everything looked normal, no soft markers.

    Keep us posted.
    Jen

26. ELENIN
    
    

    OMGosh- this is getting exciting!
    22 weeks? YIKES! That's 2 weeks away from viability!!!!!

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