Complications after egg retrieval. Please help with decision?

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  1. Jen- wasn't today your U/S?
    Thinking of you .. please post as soon as you get to a computer!

  2. Jen- wasn't today your U/S?Thinking of you .. please post as soon as you get to a computer!

    Just stopping by to see how the u/s went too.

  3. hey- well today saw only a gestational sac- which should be fine for 5 weeks 3 days-but always that fear- that nothing growing- i go back next wednesday for repeat at 6 weeks 2 days- praying we see something growing in there- always nervous- always worried it will turn out bad as we all do. I am having another beta tomorrow just for my own peace of mind- praying it too has risen alot since monday b/c then i will feel like we are going in the right direction.

    Hope everyone has a great friday and UNEVENTFUL weekend. i feel sooo pregnant- so i just dread the feeling of BEING pregnant and NOT being pregnant anymore.

    Jen

  4. Thinking about you Jen. Hoping that you have lots of good news coming. We are approaching 9 weeks on Tuesday. For the past 2 or 3 days my wife has had lots of black/brown spots. There have been clots too. It seems to be getting more and more each day. How do you know if she's losing too much or if it's disturbing the growth of the babies? It's so depressing. Not sure what to do about this.

  5. Hopeful- if it is dark it is just old blood working it's way out- not anything to worry about too badly. It is good that it is coming out. Since u have had good u/s it is something that will just have to resolve. Hang in there- doing another u/s next week???? I know it is scary but these r very common in first trimester- especially with twins. 20% of pregnancies have bleeding in first trimester. I would just keep her resting, keep getting u/s every week to reassure u both.
    Jen

  6. Thinking about you, HH & Jen!
    Please update when you can!
    ~OA

  7. Thinking about you, HH & Jen!Please update when you can!~OA

    So, here we are again. Just beginning to feel a little hope and our hopes are crushed again. I'm sad and pi#$ed off. The doctor said to have strict bedrest. He did not sound as confident as he usually does. I asked if we should get a peri and he said,not yet. What's the point anyway?! I just want to thank you all for being so helpful and encouraging. There are truly nice people out there.

    This is a note from my wife to family and friends:

    Today\'s ultrasound confirmed one baby's heart stopped beating. The hemorrhage is still very enlarged and cut off the blood supply of that baby. The second baby is not developing on time. The baby should measure 9 weeks and is still only measuring 8 weeks and some days.

    The feelings of sadness we feel today is indescribable. It seems just as I start feeling a little hope and wonder if maybe it will soon be time to pull out the baby books, things are not looking well at all. I don't feel hope that the other baby will make it. I don't like that the babies features are distinct and that we have to watch each one die. Again.

    I wonder why the long stretch. Why couldn't this have happened sooner if it weren't meant to be? My heart is broken and I find there are no words left to say. I suppose all we do is wait now, for our other baby to pass.

    Thanks so much for your continous support. I know all of you were praying for us, and we are so thankful for this. God's plans for us must differ from what we desire, and I'm sure there will come a time when we can accept that.

  8. hopeful- i am soooo sorry- my heart aches for you and your wife. I will be continuously praying for you- that maybe this baby will survive and grow.

    Jen

  9. HelpfulHusband and Mrs. HelpfulHusband,
    I am so sorry for the loss of your twin. I can never wrap my head around it when life treats us so unkind.
    I know there is absolutely nothing I can say right now to ease your pain, but please know you are all in my Heart- and my husband's, as he's been cheering you on, too.
    I will continue praying for your little one and hope he/she will begin to flourish, once the SH subsides.
    We really weren't expecting this- not at all.

    So very, very sorry. Please keep us informed.

  10. ELENIN and Jen,
    Just stopping by to see what's happening. I've been a downer lately, but still wondering how you two are doing and hoping you both have successful stories. We have an appointment today at 10:30 a.m. Hope to chat with you soon.

    Dave

  11. hopeful- i hope the appt goes well today- thinking about you and your wife and baby- i know how scared you are.

    I have my next u/s tomorrow afternoon- scared too. Always preparing for the worst sucks.

    Jen

  12. HH-I consulted with a peri after I m/c'd the first time. I wish my OB had consulted one. I wouldn't have m/c's if she had. My peri agreed to be available for our OB this time. I also have a new OB.

  13. Just checking in...
    Was it the doppler U/S today, David?
    Jen- I'll bet you are excited, too.
    Updates, please everyone...

  14. Just checking in...Was it the doppler U/S today, David?Jen- I'll bet you are excited, too.Updates, please everyone...

    Hi. Well, we had the ultrasound today and we were prepared for more bad news. However, they surprised us and measured a HB of 153 and it's measuring at 10.1 weeks. It was moving it's arms around too, makes it even more real. However, I spotted some fluid behind the head/neck (doctor did not do the u/s, a nurse did). We had NT problems with our momo twins three years ago and hope to GOD that we do not have to go through that stress again. The IVF clinic is releasing us and we found an obgyn. Once we see them (this Thurs.) we will be able to see a peri, if needed. I really hope we don't need to see one, but it's hard to ignore our bad luck. So, I'm worried, stressed and looking at as many ultrasound videos/pics to compare my picture with. I know, not a good habit...But, I can't help myself. Can anyone share any stories/experiences about wierd u/s and fluid, or NT scans? Hope everyone else has a smooth ride.

  15. Hopeful- glad that the u/s showed good news- i know you are worried about the fluid and b/c what happend in your other twin pregnancy. Can't wait for you to see the OB and get in with a good Peri- YOu NEED ONE ASAP. Did the SCH go away completely??????? no more bleeding i hope. Please update us, still praying for you both daily- every time i look i am hoping for good news from you.

    I will update my u/s tomorrow.

    jen

  16. Hi. Well, we had the ultrasound today and we were prepared for more bad news. However, they surprised us and measured a HB of 153 and it's measuring at 10.1 weeks. It was moving it's arms around too, makes it even more real. However, I spotted some fluid behind the head/neck (doctor did not do the u/s, a nurse did). We had NT problems with our momo twins three years ago and hope to GOD that we do not have to go through that stress again. The IVF clinic is releasing us and we found an obgyn. Once we see them (this Thurs.) we will be able to see a peri, if needed. I really hope we don't need to see one, but it's hard to ignore our bad luck. So, I'm worried, stressed and looking at as many ultrasound videos/pics to compare my picture with. I know, not a good habit...But, I can't help myself. Can anyone share any stories/experiences about wierd u/s and fluid, or NT scans? Hope everyone else has a smooth ride.
    You NEED a PERI.
    I'm not yelling at you, I am urging you. Do you think your OB/GYN will recommend that you have one? I will bet one of my kidneys he/she won't; and here's why.
    A Peri will be working along with your OB right through your pregnancy. Most OB's don't like that because it takes up too much of their time or they feel second guessed.
    You are already at high risk. Multiple M/Cs, threatened M/C with this one. etc.
    This will sound harsh, but if you don't get one, and something bad happens, (G-d forbid) are you willing to go through the rest of your life wondering what would have happened if you had listened to us?

    Good luck, and congrats on the fantastic U/S!

  17. Jen - I cannot wait until your U/S tomorrow!

  18. Thank you for the urge. I needed that. I guess I need to stop assuming that doctors are going to point us into the right direction. I just always believe that health professionals would do the \"right\" thing instead of taking shortcuts. I need to stop doing that. Do you have any recommendations on a peri?

    Yes, she stopped with red bleeding. However, there are some brown gushes every so often. Yesterday a long tissue-like string came out. Pretty nasty and scary. I just keep on telling myself that it's the blood resolving. She is still doing modified bedrest, and I think she can for the rest of this the entire rollercoaster ride...Not sure if I told you all that she left her teaching job. She will have the option to get hired back in the fall though.

    Where should I go on the internet to compare/search nuchial transluency sizes? I really hate that I have to deal with this again. Hopefully, I misdiagnosed this and we will hear some good news on Thursday. I'm praying that you do not have to go through any of this and have a normal healthy pregnancy on it's way. Please update when you can and good luck.

  19. antoine_t (Dave),I followed you here because I was anxious about an update.Does your DW have a Perinatologist? I would urge you to find one right away.Stay away from the Lorenz group. Your best bet is through U of M Fetal Diagnosis and Treatment in Ann Arbor or Hutzel Women's Hospital.

    Dave, here are my recommendations from the last page,
    I hope you find it helpful.

  20. Fast strong heartbeat today, even got to hear it- preparing each week for bad news- but trying to stay hopeful and positive. Next u/s at 8 weeks 2 days, next wednesday- 1 week at a time.
    Jen

  21. GREAT NEWS Jen! Continued good news wishes coming your way!

  22. Thanks Jen and ELENIN for all the support,
    Again, I wish you two the best and pray everyday that you will not have to go through any of the BS we are going through.

    As for our 10 week update, the blood from the SCH is almost gone, the heartbeat looks good, the baby is growing...But, guess what? Now, we have a new problem to deal with! ****! (I would swear but it gets sensored.)

    At 10 weeks a 4 mm nuchial transluency fold in neck/head was measured. It's very thick for this stage of the pregnancy. Our new OB was very nice (and honest). She told us that, usually/but not always when you see a thickness of this size so soon in the pregnancy there usually is not a good outcome. But, she went on to give us hope and suggested for us to do all the tests possible before we make any decisions. Our doctor sent wife and I for a blood test for chromosone testing (again). We are going to schedule for an official NT scan next week along with a CVS/FISH Test. I think the results of the FISH test will come back in 2 days or so.

    After those results we'll know more. If positive, we will schedule an Aminio. The amniocentesis testing will confirm the presence of a genetic abnormality.

    This test will show if we have,
    Turner syndrome
    Trisomy 18
    Trisomy 13
    Triploidy

    The rollercoaster continues down a long and tall hill. Worried, sick, and hopeless. I guess, we need to leave this in Gods' hands. It's so sad to see the other deceased baby everytime we have an u/s. It's going to reabsorb, but it will take awhile since it measured almost 9 weeks when it died. My wife and I started to look into adoption today as well. We both don't think we can go through this emotional and mental beating again or afford it. Not sure how we will afford adoption either. We're BROKE. My wife and I both agree that all of the IVFers on this chatboard are the strongest people in the world.

    -antoine_t Dave

  23. Hopeful- I REALLY PRAY that all will turn out okay with this baby- this just absolutely sucks. I am so sorry for all the stress you and your wife have been thru- i know all you want is a healthy baby to take home. I am really praying for you guys for good news, that the CVS and FISH will be negative and you won't need an amnio.

    IF you decide to go down the adoption road- I do have a contact thru a referral agency- i know of 3 people who have adopted with them- they have contacts all over the US and usually couples have a baby within 6 months - they are truly awesome- of course- nothing is without a hitch- but they are wonderful people, and because of their connections they are sent birth mom referrals all the time.

    ANYWAY- i pray to GOD you do not need to go down this route- but if you want the info- i will give it to you.
    Jen

  24. antoine_t,

    i have followed along with your story for a while and i am going to butt in with some unsolicited advise. please do not let your regualr ob/gyn perform the cvs and/or amnio. this is where you absolutely need the advanced expertise of a perinatologist. both of these procedures have a risk of miscarriage and need to be done by someone who has the most experience in these scenarios. in addition i am not convinced you need both (again increased miscarriage risk, each procedure has it's own) as most people either do one or the other. obviously there are pros and cons of going with one over the other (cvs does not test for neural tube defects for instance where amnio does) but a you need the guidance of a perniatologist on this and not a regular ob/gyn.

    i had a amnio done as my 1st trimester screening came back elevated for downs. never in a million years would my gyno have performed it and never would i have let him despite my utmost confidence in his abilities as a ob/gyn. he will do anmios later in pregnancy to determine lung maturity prior to inducing labor but diagnostic amnios early in pregnancy they refer you immediately to a peri becasue of all the potential for complications and the absolute need for a more experienced hand when conducting these type of procedures.

    please i am begging you to have your wife see a peri for these procedures. the fact that your ob has not referred you to a peri given the history and the current issues with this pregnancy make the hair on the back of my neck stand up. you need to be under a peri's care like yesterday.

    best of luck to you and your wife. i hope everything works out for you two.

  25. had a good 8 week u/s bean measuring 8 weeks 1 day, i was 8 week 2days. Doc said if i make it thru 10 weeks should be good.

    hopeful- how are you and wife doing???

    Jen

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