Complications after egg retrieval. Please help with decision?

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  1. Hello antoine_t,

    I am wishing you and your wife the best.

    Hope everything settles.

    Take care,

    Sylvai

  2. Today more bleeding began. Started brown and got red. Gushing. Dripping in the toilet...Called the nurse on call and she said if she saturates a pad go to ER, there's nothing else we can do, appointment on Tuesday. My wife just said she has a bad feeling about all this.

  3. Hello antoine_t,

    I am so sorry for what you and your wife are going through.

    Sylvia

  4. hopeful- if she does indeed have a SCH- she is going to continue to bleed off and on until it resolves. Rest is the only thing i know to do. It really sucks- i hope that it isn't going to compromise the pregnancy- but the fact that it is bright red tells me it is most likely from the SCH- b/c it is fresh bleeding.

    If she isn't cramping then i don't think it is the body m/c.
    have u guys gone over to the high risk pregnancy board and read over their with the SCH women have?
    praying for you.
    Jen

  5. hopeful- if she does indeed have a SCH- she is going to continue to bleed off and on until it resolves. Rest is the only thing i know to do. It really sucks- i hope that it isn't going to compromise the pregnancy- but the fact that it is bright red tells me it is most likely from the SCH- b/c it is fresh bleeding.If she isn't cramping then i don't think it is the body m/c.have u guys gone over to the high risk pregnancy board and read over their with the SCH women have?praying for you.Jen

    Hi Jen. Thanks for the comments. I will definitely check out the high risk pregnancy board. I took her to the ER after she saturated 3 pads in about 2 hours. LOTS of bright red bleeding gooshing out. After spending 6 hours of waiting, doing tests, and more waiting...This is what they said; threatened miscarriage, the u/s shows 2 heartbeats, cervix is closed, and a large circular spot of SCH bleeding. Continue bedrest, drink lots of water, and come back if the bleeding saturates 2 pads in 2 hours. Every time she gets up, moves suddenly, cramps, etc. I get so nervous and my head feels like it's going to explode. It's only been 7 weeks and I don't know how I'm going to manage to worry anymore than this.

  6. hopeful- i am sorry you guys are going thru this- i know you are both scared and the SCH can compromise the pregnancy if it continues to bleed and a large enough clot builds up- BUT- it is possible to have a good outcome too. BEDREST- strict bedrest, but have her exercise her legs alot. She may need to be laying around for the next 3 weeks or so. B/c she lost so much blood- even though she received blood products- her \"clotting\" factors have probably been \"altered\" a little bit. hence the recurrent bleeding. Maybe they should run a clotting panel on her and check it out- it is probably fine but something they could check.

    Praying for you all.
    Jen

  7. hopeful- i am sorry you guys are going thru this- i know you are both scared and the SCH can compromise the pregnancy if it continues to bleed and a large enough clot builds up- BUT- it is possible to have a good outcome too. BEDREST- strict bedrest, but have her exercise her legs alot. She may need to be laying around for the next 3 weeks or so. B/c she lost so much blood- even though she received blood products- her \"clotting\" factors have probably been \"altered\" a little bit. hence the recurrent bleeding. Maybe they should run a clotting panel on her and check it out- it is probably fine but something they could check.Praying for you all.Jen

    Thanks Jen. How are you doing these days? I've been so selfish to just talk about us, us, us...

    Anyway, this is an email that my wife sent out to fam and friends.

    Things don't seem to be getting any easier. Last Wednesday after our appointment that confirmed the Subchorionic Hemotoma was beginning to resolve, our situation took a little turn of events. I bed rested for days (sure miss fresh air) and then on Sunday just before church I began to bleed very heavily. It was flowing out...soaked through my clothes and everything. I thought for sure I was miscarrying one or both of the babies. Cramps were beginning and I was losing a lot of blood every minute. The IVF nurse on call was worried about my hemoglobin dropping so she said go straight to emergency. At this point, if we were miscarrying there was nothing we could do about it. The bleeding was worse than when I miscarried the last baby.
    You can imagine how Dave and I were feeling at this point. We were in the emergency room for 8 HOURS!. I'm beginning to hate that place...and I'm so tired of being poked, prodded, injected, and doctors coming in and out asking me the same questions I've answered over and over and doing nothing about the actual problem. I like how one P.A. came in and gave me a pap smear (yes...what a terrible time for this as I'm bleeding my brains out). Then an hour later, somebody from OBGYN came down to do another pap smear because apparently once a year isn't enough to get one, but 2 in one day? ANd nobody can seem to insert an IV needle in me without poking me 3 different times, bruising my arm, and further making me bleed! It happens every time.

    I lost a lot of blood on Sunday. It turns out the SCH did not resolve and became worse. After another hour ultrasound, they discovered that the babies hearts are still beating. Thank the Lord for this...but the bleeding is not getting better. The fear of this SCH is if it does not resolve and continues to cause bleeding, it eventually starts wearing and tearing at the placenta. Once the placenta is gone, so are the babies.

    We went to our IVF doctor today for our weekly appointment, and the mass of blood continues to exist right above the baby sacs and touching the placenta. We are no where in the clear, and basically at this point at the highest possible risk of miscarrying. There is nothing we can do about it. I just keeping wondering...why is this happening to us? Once we get past a series of road blocks that we didnt pass with other pregnancies, we seem to hit another, and another...and they are all serious, and there are no answers.

    I'm sure we should be happy for things we have, and to be able to get this far, and to see heartbeats, but there is nothing yet to celebrate as our miscarriage rate continues to increase. We are not happy with the results we are seeing, and we live in fear every single day. I'm so tired of bleeding, of being in pain, feeling emotionally spent, getting shots everyday, sometimes twice, sometimes 3 times, and feeling my pregnancy being compromised once again. We are doing everything right, and have put everything we have into this. The financial aspect of this is very stressful, and since I am not able to work, I am no longer recieving pay which is making it difficult for ends to meet.

    Honestly, if it is in God's plans for me to miscarry.... why couldn't it be sooner than later? Why this terrible tease? Not only did we see heartbeats again today, but we saw the formations of the bodies beginning. It is going to get harder and harder to detach ourselves from the situation. Our very reliable doctor from UM gave us a reality check yesterday. He said..prepare yourselves for the worst, because it just doesn't look that great. The honesty is appreciated, but still hurts.

    It is hard for Dave and I to let ourselves be happy for even one moment...because everytime we do it seems like everything comes crashing down. We wonder when we can catch a break when the odds are always so heavily stacked against us.

    Thanks for letting me vent. The internet seems to be my only outlet these days....although as you know I'm not usually one to vent my thoughts out loud. Please continue to pray for us. It is all we have left. Our babies are showing slow growth... each a day apart in development.

  8. antoine_t (Dave),
    I followed you here because I was anxious about an update.
    Does your DW have a Perinatologist? I would urge you to find one right away.
    Stay away from the Lorenz group. Your best bet is through U of M Fetal Diagnosis and Treatment in Ann Arbor or Hutzel Women's Hospital.

  9. antoine_t (Dave),I followed you here because I was anxious about an update.Does your DW have a Perinatologist? I would urge you to find one right away.Stay away from the Lorenz group. Your best bet is through U of M Fetal Diagnosis and Treatment in Ann Arbor or Hutzel Women's Hospital.

    Thanks ELENIN for finding me here. I didn't have time to post both places. Anyway, what can be done at this point? Is it really even worth looking into and seeing a Perinatologist? The more I talk to doctors about my wife's pregnancy, the more I feel like it's out of our control. It's going to resolve or it's going to miscarry...Aren't those the only options? Maybe you can tell me more about what you know about these types of situations. Thanks again!

  10. hopeful- my heart breaks for you guys. there is nothing u can do- or your wife- i pray that the sch will resolve and stop bleeding- so that it doesn't affect the pregnancy. Do not let ANYONE do any more paps on her. THE ONLY thing they should do is u/s to check how things are progressing- anything else is just putting her at higher risk of m/c. I am sorry- i so want you guys to have a happy ending. Don't give up hope.

    As for me- + hpt and beta today is 86 at 11dp3dt. we'll see cautiously optimistic since i was never supposed to get this far.

    Jen

  11. hopeful- my heart breaks for you guys. there is nothing u can do- or your wife- i pray that the sch will resolve and stop bleeding- so that it doesn't affect the pregnancy. Do not let ANYONE do any more paps on her. THE ONLY thing they should do is u/s to check how things are progressing- anything else is just putting her at higher risk of m/c. I am sorry- i so want you guys to have a happy ending. Don't give up hope.As for me- + hpt and beta today is 86 at 11dp3dt. we'll see cautiously optimistic since i was never supposed to get this far.Jen
    Jeni - first off, congrats!

    HelpfulHusband, the reason you need a Peri at this point is that a Peri would have NEVER allowed a PAP at this point in your pregnancy- especially w/spotting issues. It irritates the cervix.
    Now, since you already know that the cervix is closed, it's OK, but Yes, it's time to get a Peri.

  12. Jeni - first off, congrats!HelpfulHusband, the reason you need a Peri at this point is that a Peri would have NEVER allowed a PAP at this point in your pregnancy- especially w/spotting issues. It irritates the cervix.Now, since you already know that the cervix is closed, it's OK, but Yes, it's time to get a Peri.

    Jen, that's awesome. We are praying for you over here.

    ELENIN, ok. I'll look into getting my wife a Peri. Thanks for putting me in my place, it's hard to be hopeful these days.

  13. Hopeful- praying for u and your wife today.
    Jen

  14. ELENIN, ok. I'll look into getting my wife a Peri. Thanks for putting me in my place, it's hard to be hopeful these days.
    Not trying to, but it does take time to get one.
    Sometimes as long as a month.
    My Peri was working out of Hutzel (head of neonatal/perinatologist department), but she's moved to AA to take a research position there, and I don't think she sees patients any more, but she might.
    Her name is Dr Marjory Treadwell. It wouldn't hurt to ask, right?
    I think the major hospitals - AA and Hutzel - are the only way to go. They have all of the newest equipment and know the latest procedures. Hutzel, for example, will resuscitate babies that are 23 weekers, instead of the standard, 'no exceptions' 24.

    If you mention spotting & twinning (but nothing else until you have the appointment)- you might get lucky and find one right away. But, stay away from the Lorenz group.

    Praying everything goes smoothly for you both!

  15. Hopeful- saw u have been posting other places- glad I hope some of what u have read has given a smidge of reassuranc. Praying and thinking about u and your wife daily- and I mean that- I sent them up.

    As for me repeat beta- doubled it was 166 today. Happy.
    Jen

  16. Hopeful- saw u have been posting other places- glad I hope some of what u have read has given a smidge of reassuranc. Praying and thinking about u and your wife daily- and I mean that- I sent them up.As for me repeat beta- doubled it was 166 today. Happy.Jen

    Good Jen. Really good. Make sure to keep us updated, you deserve the best. We are at a stand still now. Tuesday is our next appointment, I'll be back with the results then. Wishing you lots and lots of success, keep it doubling. Yay!

  17. beta more than doubled again- 399. One day at a time.

    Hopeful- hope your guys appt goes well next week- thinking about you.
    Jen

  18. Hopeful- thinking about you guys at 3:47 in the morning- praying you have a good u/s today.

    My beta doubled again 815- u/s on thursday to check for sac.

    Let us know.
    Jen

  19. Hopeful- thinking about you guys at 3:47 in the morning- praying you have a good u/s today.My beta doubled again 815- u/s on thursday to check for sac.Let us know.Jen

    Jen,
    Great news for you. We are praying that it keeps on doubling. Whoa...You're up late, or up early. I know how that goes. So, we are getting one of those color u/s to look at blood flow and everything. The doctor is actually going to see us after I pushed for it. I'll be back later to report how it went. Take care and try to rest.

  20. Jen- Wow! Great news on the Beta's- nice, strong numbers.
    I\'ll bet you can't wait until Thursday.
    I hate the waiting game! (but it's only two days .. OK, you can shoot me for that!)

    antoine_t- Does the clinic have a doppler color U/S machine now? Last time I needed one, they hadn't gotten one yet, so they sent me to my local Hospital to their imaging department.
    Darn- I'm going to be in and out of network reach all day, and I'm dying to hear the news!
    BTW- brilliant call on demanding your RE to check. One time, I had a different one on staff to check to see if I had a membrane separating my twins- he couldn't see it, so I went back a couple hours later when I found out my RE was available. Sure enough, he found it and showed it to me the second the wand was in place!

  21. They actually told me that they were going to do a color u/s last week, but didn't do one today. Whoops...I think I was star struck when I actually saw the doctor and it made me forget. He did say that he wanted to see us next week again, so I'm going to ask him about the ultrasound then. Hopefully, I will be better prepared to talk to him.

    As for our appointment, it was super fast. Basically, the good news- we saw 2 good heartbeats (163 and 176) and one measured 8 weeks and the other one measured 8.1 weeks. They grew!

    The bad news- still a lot of bleeding. It looked like more to me this week when I compared the u/s. What could be causing this? My wife has been spotting mostly brown with a little red here and there. But, (knock on wood) no gushes or ER visits. I'll just continue to pray. I asked the Dr. if our chances are good and he answered, 95% chance they will make it. Huh? I've been hearing 50/50 chance until then. I should have been happy, but I'm still worried. Again though, I do like this doctor's confidence. I wish I had some of it.

  22. Hello antoine_t!

    Great news for you and your wife!!!!!

    Wish you all the best.

    Sylvia

  23. Hopeful~ great news today!!! I've been anxiously awaiting your post. Hang in there. By the way- your a dad now- you will never stop worrying!!! You will just go through different stages of worry

    Shannon

  24. Hopeful- such great news. Just keep her at home with her feet up. These things can hang around for a while but those r great heartbeats- and praying all is going to go fine.
    Jen

  25. Hopeful- such great news. Just keep her at home with her feet up. These things can hang around for a while but those r great heartbeats- and praying all is going to go fine.
    Jen

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